Ως χρωμοΣώματα, επανακαθορίζουμε την ταυτότητά μας και θέτουμε τα δικά μας μέτρα για το ποιοι είμαστε και τι μας αρέσει.

Ψάχνουμε το δικό μας χρώμα σε έναν κόσμο που επιμένει να δείχνει γκρίζος..

[Ποιοι είμαστε] [Τι θέλουμε, τι δε θέλουμε, θέλουμε;] [Γιατί;] [Πώς;]

30 Σεπ 2007

ΕΜΕΙΣ ΚΑΙ Η ΕΙΚΟΝΑ ΜΑΣ


Εμείς οι gay λέμε συχνά ότι διεκδικούμε το δικαίωμα στην ορατότητα. Αυτό συνεπάγεται και την ύπαρξη μιας εικόνας. Το θέμα είναι η εικόνα αυτή να είναι δική μας και όχι κατασκεύασμα άλλων. Υπάρχουν πολλά στερεότυπα για τους ομοφυλόφιλους, από τα «ανώδυνα» όπως αυτό της ξεφωνημένης αδερφής, ως τα σοβαρότερα που έχουν να κάνουν με μύθους για το AIDS και άλλα νοσήματα.

Το τι εικόνα υπάρχει για αυτή την ομάδα, το καταλαβαίνεις όταν κάνεις coming out. Οι φίλοι, και γενικότερα οι άνθρωποι στους οποίους ανοίγεσαι, καταλαβαίνουν πως το να είσαι gay δεν είναι τελικά αυτό που θεωρούσαν- συνειδητοποιούν (ιδιαίτερα αν είναι καλοπροαίρετοι και όχι κολλημένοι) πως δεν είναι κάτι περίεργο.

Σημαντικό ρόλο στη δημιουργία εικόνων και στερεοτύπων, παίζει το αγαπημένο μας κουτί, η τηλεόραση. Δυστυχώς οι gay γίνονται αντικείμενα «κριτικής» από διάφορες Τατιάνες και άλλους αδαείς παρουσιαστές. Χρησιμοποιούνται εκφράσεις του στυλ: «εγώ τους δέχομαι, αλλά…». Η μόνη περίπτωση να λεχθούν ουσιαστικά πράγματα είναι να υπάρχουν «εκπρόσωποι» της «ομάδας», που να μιλούν ανοιχτά για το σημαίνει να είσαι ομοφυλόφιλος. Αλλά τι να σου κάνουν κι αυτοί όταν η οθόνη κατακλύζεται από ένα σωρό κρυφές που δεν τους νοιάζει τίποτα? Η λεγόμενη μέση ελληνίδα νοικοκυρά και ο απλός κόσμος που …εμπιστεύεται την tv, βλέπουν απλώς και μόνο μια εικόνα η οποία σε συνδυασμό με το πώς μεγάλωσαν, μπορεί να οδηγήσει σε ρατσιστικές αντιλήψεις και συμπεριφορές. Όλοι αυτοί οι μεγάλοι κριτές… δεν νοιάζονται για το τι «περνάνε» σ’ ένα γονιό, ο οποίος μπορεί να αντιδράσει άσχημα σε μια αποκάλυψη του παιδιού του! Βέβαια, για να μην είμαστε απόλυτοι, η τηλεόραση σε σχέση με παλιότερα, μιλάει λίγο πιο άνετα για το θέμα.

Ο μόνος τρόπος να αλλάξει κάτι, ποιος είναι? Εμείς… αν δείξουμε ποιοι πραγματικά είμαστε. Το θέμα είναι να ανοιχτούμε και να σπάσουμε ηλίθια στερεότυπα και τότε θα είμαστε ορατοί, απλώς ως διαφορετικοί !

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kostas είπε...

edw etheses polla themata gia syzhthsh...
tespa eimai symfwnos me to na spasoume ta stereotypa me to coming out kai as einai mikrhs emveleias kinhsh, toulaxiston kanoume to elaxisto dynato.
oso gia thn antidrash twn goniwn kai filwn, einai alitheia pws ephreazontai apo thn thleorash (k apo allou vevaia) kai mporei na antidrasoun "perierga" (kathe coming out kai mia diaforetikh istoria...) alla ayto den dikaiologei parapanw apo 20% ths antidrashs tous nomizw.

tespa egw pantws tha yposthriza to coming out na ginetai me kapoia strathgikh apo to atomo, mias kai me th xrhsh kapoion sygekrimenwn ekfrasewn "klise" mporeis na fereis th syzhthsh se ayto pou pragmatika theleis esy - pera dld apo tis koutes erwthseis vasismenes stis esfalmenes idees..

Ανώνυμος είπε...

genikeymeno to kimeno soy....pos 8a kanoyme coming out?

kostas είπε...

pws tha kanoume coming out?
kat arxas an eisai pragmatika etoimos na to kaneis den exei shmasia o tropos! (fysika ypothetoume oti den skas myth ntymenos me ta eswrouxa ths manas sou...)

koita mporeis panta na vasizesai sthn agaph twn allwn. egw px eixa petaksei stous dikous mou to "exw thn valitsa etoimh epanw, ean xreiastei. katalavainw an den m agapate opws prin" pou fysika htan mia poly xontrokomenh mplofa h opoia tous odhghse na epivevaiwsoun me prakseis pws den exoun kanena provlhma k na tous frikarei oxi to gegonos oti eimai gay alla to oti yparxei periptwsh analoga me thn drash tous na antidrasw.

se filous pali einai analoga to atomo. ston kollito mou arxika eixa pei oti eimai bi gia na kopsw antidraseis. en telei den ton enoiaze ti eimai, ton enoiaze na pernaw kala. epeita apo to prwto come out petaksa th maska tou bi k elega apla thn alitheia - kai ksereis kati? aytoi pou noiazontai gia sena tha se dextoune opws eisai fysika, akoma k an tous parei xrono na to synithisoun, tha einai ekei. oi ypoloipoi pou tha antidrasoun arnhtika paizei na sou kanoun kai xarh pou feygoun apo monoi tous.
me to xrono ola tha ksekatharisoun k sto myalo tous omws.

telos sta asxhma mhn ksexnas "when life gives you lemons, ask for tekila and salt" cheers :P

Χρήστος είπε...

nomizw pws apenanti sta stereotypa afto pou prepei na antitaksoume einai h alitheia. den exei shmasia o tropos pou tha kaneis coming out, arkei na sevesai ton allon kai ton eafto sou. to zhtoumeno einai ma milhseis kai na peis poios eisai. kapoies fores einai pio efkolo apo oso nomizoume...

kostas είπε...

realy?
pisteyeis den exei shmasia o tropos pou kaneis come out arkei na sevesai ton allo k ton eayto sou??

skepsou posous gay ksereis.
apo aytous posoi exoun anoixtei se filous kai oikogeneia??? (pou DEn einai k ekeinoi gay)
theleis na mou peis pws o arithmos aytwn twn anthrwpwn pou vrhkes den sevetai tous allous h ton eayto tou??
oxi re sy xristo mh to vlepeis mono thewritika.
OLA exoun shmasia otan prokeitai na kaneis mia kinhsh pou mporei na se ephreasei vathia psyxologika,opws to coming out.

nai ontws apenanti sta stereotypipa as antitaksoume thn alitheia, ayth einai pws exoume apla mia diaforetikh seksoualikh taytothta OXI oti eimaste agioi h athwoi san mwra.

telos to pisteyw pws "kapoies" fores einai poio eykolo apo oso nomizoume
alla
den mporei na apeytinomaste etsi se ena koinoniko synolo tou opoiou megalo meros travaei zori sthn eparxia kai sto sxoleio px (ayto martyroune allwste kai ta prohgoumena post)

Αντώνης είπε...

προσωπικά πιστεύω πως είναι ελάχιστοί αυτοί που σέβονται τους άλλους και εαυτούς kosta και δεν είναι καθόλου θεωρητικό το ότι πρέπει να προτάσσεται η αλήθεια ... το ότι παίζει ρόλο ο τρόπος δεν το αμφισβητεί κανείς, αν και σε πολύ κοντινά άτομα δεν νομίζω πως είναι και κεφαλαιώδες , νομίζω πως αυτό που είναι κακό σ'αυτές τις περιπτώσεις είναι ότι το αντιμετωπίζουμε σαν κάτι τρομερό και φοβερό εμείς οι ίδιοι... it really isn't
αν ξεπεράσουμε αυτό, οποιοδήποτε coming out δεν θα είναι τπτ τρομερό, γιατί θα μαστε εντάξει με τον εαυτό μας

Ανώνυμος είπε...

kosta apo oti katalaves ta paidia mono logia einai.perimeneis tora apo ton antoni na pei stoys goneis toys pos einai gay?...tespa....oreo come out re antoni...! oraio to keimeno soy alla stamata na allazeis to para8iro se pedikixara.com otan mpeni
i mama soy sto domatio!

x-oyranoy είπε...
Αυτό το σχόλιο αφαιρέθηκε από τον συντάκτη.
Ανώνυμος είπε...

nai oyrane dn iparxi logos na to anagilis oti ise gay.alla otan se rotane pote 8a mas feris kamia fili sto spiti ti les?otan sizitane se pion 8a miasi to eggoni toys ti les?na soy po ego foras tin maska kai arxizi to tsirko!ade na to pite stoys goneis sas kai meta afiste sxolia!

kostas είπε...

1) Antoni to coming out EINAI kati tromero kai fovero, toulaxiston sta myala oswn den to exoun pragmatopoihsei akoma.
les epishs:
"οποιοδήποτε coming out δεν θα είναι τπτ τρομερό, γιατί θα μαστε εντάξει με τον εαυτό μας"
ma o anthrwpos ws koinwniko on gia na einai oloklhromenos k entaksei me ton eayto tou xreiazetai tous filous / goneis opote to thema einai k pws kanei to coming out sta atoma pou ton noiazoun ETSI wste na GINEI ok me ton eayto tou k epeita na mhn tou fainetai tpt to tromero.
2)Anonyme please mhn mpaineis se proswpikes diamaxes. oloi exoun dikaioma sth gnwmh tous akomh k as mhn exoun viwsei the "full picture" yet.
3) Oyrane paideia den einai mono ayto pou lamvanoume sta sxoleia h apo thn thleorash - einai kai h gnwsh/empeiria pou lamvanoume apo memonomena atoma h organwseis sthn kathimerinothta mas
me alla logia eimaste oloi ws kapoio vathmo kinoumenes monades prosforas gnwsewn. KAI POIOS einai katalyloteros sto na eksighsei to thema ths omofylofilias stous dikous sou anthrwpous???
proswpika pisteyw esy o idios giati mono tote tha tous noiazei arketa wste na parakolouthisoun ti trexei k na mh meinoun sta stereotypa.

Ανώνυμος είπε...

entaksi re kosta alla dn mpori na mou mila gia coming out apo ti stigmi pou o idios to krivi...mou 8imizi aristero bolseviko me tsepi romanof...

kostas είπε...

koita to katanow re anonyme...

ALLA apo thn allh me proswpika sxolia den tha vgei akrh giati to mono pou paizei einai na yparksei entash ths axrhsths morfhs typou gaydar chat.
as dwsoume o kathenas oti mporei edw, oti exei zhsei, th drash kai to apotelesma ths.

ta symperasmata allwste den tha ta vgalei o kathenas diavazontas ayta ta post alla epeita pou tha kathisei monos na ta skeftei.

Χρήστος είπε...

arxika, thelw na sxoliasw afto pou eipe o kostas oti paideia den prosferei mono to sxoleio. den exw tis treles elpides gia to apotelesma ths dikhs mas prospatheias, alla th thewrw poly shmantikh!!! para th deksia strofh ths xwras, kyriws se epipedo ideologias (as mh xairetai kke kai syriza- ta pososta tous den antikatoptrizoun ousiastikh allagh), pisteuw pws to na gnwrisoun oi anthrwpoi kati "kainourgio" sth zwh tous (vl. gay) mporei na allaksei estw kai ligo th stash tous. arkei na ksefygoume apo to trypaki kai na pistepsoume sthn proswpikh prwtovoulia (kai se genikotero epipedo).
epishs thelw na pw, anwnyme (mias kai esy to aneferes), oti mporeis na vriskesai me tous goneis sou kai na mhn paizeis tsirko! oute egw to exw pei stous dikous mou, alla se mia tetoiou typou kouventa opws aneferes, mporeis na to ksekopseis kai na mhn arxiseis na parousiazeis ena "straight eafto". den yposthrizw pws einai apolyta eilikrines alla sigoura den koroideueis!
telos nomizw pws to na vlepoume to coming out ws toooso fovero (fysika thewrw dikaiologhmeno to fovo), katalhgei ratsistiko apenanti ston idio mas ton eafto!

Ανώνυμος είπε...

nai dn 8a ginei tsirko.8a ginei karmen....mexri na to pite sas parakalo min grafete gia coming out kai tetia.afiste alloys na grapsoyn poy ekanan pragmatiko coming out...min ginete kai eseis san tin jolie poy ine presvira kalis 8eliseos kai dn kseri ti 8a pei prosfigas!

Αντώνης είπε...

ανώνυμε απο που συμπέρανες ότι κρύβομαι ; μιλάς λες και ξέρεις την κάθε λεπτομέρεια τη ζωής μου, μέχρι να τη μάθεις θα σου πρότεινα απλά να μην προσπαθήσεις να με ξανακρίνεις, γκεγκε;
kosta "2)Anonyme please mhn mpaineis se proswpikes diamaxes. oloi exoun dikaioma sth gnwmh tous akomh k as mhn exoun viwsei the "full picture" yet."
επειδή γνωριζόμαστε ελπίζω να μην το παρεξηγήσεις πολύ αυτό: αλλά ξεκαβάλα λίγο που μου χεις βιώσει και το "full picture", έλεος δλδ... μεταξύ μας μαλακίες..;συμφωνώ πάντως σ'αυτό:"ο anthrwpos ws koinwniko on gia na einai oloklhromenos k entaksei me ton eayto tou xreiazetai tous filous / goneis opote to thema einai k pws kanei to coming out sta atoma pou ton noiazoun ETSI wste na GINEI ok me ton eayto tou k epeita na mhn tou fainetai tpt to tromero."
x-oyranoy ωραίο το κειμενάκι σου, την άγνοια την πολεμάμε όμως, δεν πρέπει να την υπομένουμε...και συμφωνώ είναι ακόμα χειρότερη η κοινωνία...τα δυσάρεστα νέα είναι ότι εμείς είμαστε η κοινωνία...

Ανώνυμος είπε...

mono poy dn to exeis pei stoys dikoy soys krivese! afto ftanei.dn xriazete kati parapano...

Αντώνης είπε...

με συγκινεί το ενδιαφέρον σου για το μπλόγκ μας ανώνυμε,η συχνότητα των κόμμεντς σου είναι εντυπωσιακή...
ωραία λοιπόν έβγαλες το συμπέρασμα:είμαι κρυφή, κρυφοπουστάρα για την ακρίβεια, δεν πρόκειται να κάτσω να σου ανταποδείξω ο,τιδήποτε, πολύ απλά γιατι δεν σε ξέρω και δεν με αφοράς στο ελάχιστο, είσαι απλά ένας anonymous με κακογραμμένα greeklish στο μπλόγκ, δεν με επηρεάζει σε προσωπικό επίπεδο η άποψη σου . αν έχεις κάτι παραπάνω να πείς πέραν του ότι είμαι αλλή μια αναθεματισμένη κρυφή go ahead, αλλά προφανώς μόνο σ'αυτό περιορίζεσαι(get a life by the way:-p)

kostas είπε...

epanalamvanw:
me proswpika sxolia den tha vgei akrh giati to mono pou paizei einai na yparksei entash ths axrhsths morfhs typou gaydar chat.
opote parakalw anonyme k antoni kofte ta eristika sxolia. to piasame to nohma me thn prwth.

den yposthriksa pws exw viwsei to full picture, omws yparxoun vathmides sto poso mporei na katanoeis kapoio thema, kai otan anataraseia ta nera sth zwh sou k kaneis ena vhma pros ta keinh thn kateythinsh pou syzhtame einai apolyta logiko na exeis perissoteres empeiries apo osous to analyoun thewritika. u see to exeis ZHSEI!

xrhsto exeis dikio, to kosmo ton allazoume me 2 tropous. enas einai me mikra vhmata meso ths atomikhs drashs kai deyteros me almata meso ths syllogikhs drashs - omadas.

Ανώνυμος είπε...

antoni dn eipa pos ise krifi paliopoystra...eleos.aplos ase na grapsei kanenas allos gia coming out.kapoios poy to exei kanei edo kai kairo i kati tetio.auto eipa...kai entaksi ime enas anonimos me kako greeklish sto blog...dn vrisko kati kako.! poso me endiaferi an se niazei i apopsi moy!

Αντώνης είπε...

θα γράφω για ό,τι γουστάρω και δεν το συζητάω άλλο...
kosta είμαι σίγουρος πως εχω αναταράξει αρκετά τα νερά της ζωής μου(σιγουρα περισσότερο απο σενα) και δεν καταλαβα πότε έγινες αυτόκλητος manager-συντονιστής του μπλογκ...με το gay issue έχω αντιμετωπίσει πολλούς ανθρώπους(μεταξυ αυτών και οι γονείς)και στο μπλογκ αυτό γραφω με βάση τα βιώματα μου και τις εμπειρίες μου,όπως και οι άλλοι τρεις, αυτό το πολύ απλό , σ'όποιον αρέσουν οι απόψεις μας, δεν υποχρεώθηκε κανείς να μπει...κι όποιος θεωρεί εαυτόν καλύτερο ο μπλόγγερ έχει χώρο για όλους, αντε γιατι πολλές κακίες εδω μέσα

x-oyranoy είπε...
Αυτό το σχόλιο αφαιρέθηκε από τον συντάκτη.
kostas είπε...

ok twra mou th espases gia ta kala antoni.
kales oi malakies alla yparxei k ena orio.
proswpika sxolia den anexomai.
telos

Ανώνυμος είπε...

oyrane ama perimeneis apo toys filoys na stirixtis file kai oxi apo toys goneis tote ti na soy po...tin parimia me tin kota tin kses? pou tin kiniga o kokoras na tin gamisi kai skeftete ama trekso 8a glitoso ama stamatiso 8a me poyne eykoli ara 8a skontapso! ayto akribos kaneis kai esy me toys goneis soy!

Χρήστος είπε...

anwnyme, gia to teleftaio pou les ase ton kathena na exei tis dikes tou proteraiothtes! polles fores oi desmoi filias einai pio dynatoi apo tous oikogeneiakous. einai analoga ton anthrwpo. exei megalh shmasia na se katalavainoun oi anthrwpoi gyrw sou. oi kaloi filoi einai san oikogeneia.
kai genikotera: eleos!
o kathenas exei dikaiwma na ekfrazei th gnwmh tou. kathenas mporei na sxoliazei, OXI omws na katakrinei kai na milaei apolyta gia th gnwmh tou allou!!! oi empeiries tou kathenos prepei na einai sevastes!

Swan Lake είπε...

ali8ia?gia mena ayta ine dikaiologies.kai oso na exis kakes sxesis me toys goneis i goneis ine goneis kai panta 8a se ponane kai 8a se stirizoyn!i fili pane kai erxonte!oi goneis oxi

Πάνος είπε...

Γιατι τρωγεστε μεταξυ σας? -_-'
Αντωνη, χαλαρωσε λιγο νταξει εισαι ανετος κ τον γραφεις στ'αρχιδια σου τον ανωνυμο - το καταλαβαμε.
Κωστα, νομιζω οτι με τις δικες σου αποψεις συμφωνω πιο πολυ, το coming out ΕΙΝΑΙ κατι τρομερο, ομως το 'δεν ειναι τπτ' το λεμε μονο αφου το κανουμε κ δεν γινει οντως τπτ. αμα εκανες coming out στους γονεις σου κ σε εδιωχναν απο το σπιτι μαλλον θα επανεξεταζες αυτη την αποψη.
Οντως ειναι αρκετα ευκολο να πεις οτι εισαι ομοφυλοφιλος, το θεμα ειναι οτι ρισκαρεις.
Προσωπικα πιστευω οτι αυτο που θα κερδισεις ειναι μεγαλυτερο απο αυτο που ισως χασεις αν τα πραγματα πανε στραβα.
τελος, ανωνυμε, πες κατι ουσιαστικο, κ μην κολλας στον αντωνη, δικαιωμα του να λεει οτι γουσταρει ειτε εχει κανει coming out ειτε οχι. ελεος, ουτε εγω εχω δουλεψει σε οικοδομες αλλα ΜΠΟΡΩ να πω οτι ειναι δυσκολο.
γνωμη μπορεις να εκφραζεις παντα αρκει να μην εισαι απολυτος κ αδαης.
btw ωραιο blog ;)

Swan Lake είπε...

entaksi pavlo...8a doso topo stin orgi! 8a valo nero sto ximo mou! i krasi dn ksero:p

faramir είπε...

Νομιζω οτι δεν θα πρεπει να θεωρουμε μονο τους παρουσιαστες αυτων των εκπομπων ως υπευθυνους για τον διαιωνισμο των στερεοτυπων.Υπευθυνοι ειμαστε και εμεις και με την λεξη "εμεις" εννοω ολους τους εκπροσωπους της δικης μας κοινοτητας που καλουνται στα τηλεοπτικα παραθυρα να σχολιασουν διαφορες εξελιξεις. Εχουν μιαν υποσταση καποιου ο οποιος ειτε θεωρειται υπερανω απο τους υπολοιπους ειτε υπερβολικος σε βαθμο επιθετικοτητας.Η προσσεγγιση πρεπει να γινει με ηρεμια ετσι ωστε η Τατιανα και η καθε Τατιανα να μη μπορει να βασισυτει στην επιθετικη η την "μη μου απτου" συμπεριφορα και ανα γειρει την κοινη γνωμη προς το μερος της.Ενα εξισου ενδιαφερον ερωτημα ειναι Γιατι να θελουμε να αποδειξουμε οτι δεν ειμαστε ελεφαντες? , πρεπει και εμεις οι ιδιοι να εχουμ την υποσταση καποιου ο οποιος δεν διαφερει απο το κοινο συνολο παρα μονο στον ερωτικο του συντροφο.Οπου "υποσταση" βαλτε συμπεριφορα.

Αντώνης είπε...

η αλήθεια είναι πως μετάνιωσα πολλά απ'αυτά που έγραψα πάνω, δεν πειράζει next time θα είμαι πιο ψύχραιμος.
τουλάχιστον είχαμε την ευκαιρία να μας αποκαλυφθεί ο ανώνυμος...

Swan Lake είπε...

dn sas apokaliftika vre.aplos tora ekana to blog:P meta skeftika na mpo me to logiariasmo moy :)

anisixos είπε...

Που χαθηκατε εσεις;
Γιατι δεν μπαινετε msn;

Ανώνυμος είπε...

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